The Other Reasons Why Podcasting is Hot

Near the end of this Pivot podcast, starting at about the 55 minute mark, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway give a great summary of why podcasting is “the fastest-growing ad-supported medium.” Among other things, they say “People actually listen to the ads,” and that host read-overs are very effective and remunerative (bringing much higher CPMs).

Five additional points.

First, you can listen on your own time. You’re free from the tyranny of “What’s on.” This is the triumph of personal optionality over … I dunno, you name it. Yes, we still need what’s live, at least for news and sports. But we don’t need it all the time for everything else. While that doesn’t completely obsolesce the things called “stations,” and “networks,” it does relegate them to a legacy niche. It’s an open question how big that niche will be when the transition is over.

Second, not all podcasts are ad-supported. I know, the ones without ads are mostly out on the long tail, but what matters is that anybody can podcast on the Net, just like anybody can publish there. RSS—really simple syndication—gives all of us scale. This is, as Kurt Vonnegut once said, a miracle on the order of loaves and fish. It’s foundational.

Third, podcasts are liberating. Radio and TV required licenses on the transmission side and dedicated instruments (radios and TVs ) on the receiving end. With podcasting, the thresholds of production, distribution, and consumption verge on zero. Got a phone? You’re in.

Fourth, a huge advantage of podcasts is that you can skip over the ads. Whenever I hear Kara announce the first “quick break,” I usually hit the forward-30-seconds icon six times, to jump over three minutes of 30-second ads. (Though lately Pivot has gone to seven of those in the first break.) Still, I’m sure the advertisers’ money is well spent, because some percentage of the audience won’t skip all the ads all the time. And the host-reads are good and effective, as they say.

Fifth, if it’s not “wherever you get your podcasts,” it’s not a podcast. The context for what I sourced above was Kara and Scott’s back-and-forth about Netflix moving into video podcasts. I think “video podcasts” is a contradiction, especially if those podcasts are just another form of TV you can only get from one exclusive producer. If that’s the case, it’s just a show. But look at Us magazine’s list of the 7 Best Podcasts on Netflix Right Now (April 2026). The audio versions of all seven are available wherever you get your podcasts. That makes them real. If they become exclusive to Netflix, or to anybody, they aren’t podcasts anymore. Find another word for them.



2 responses to “The Other Reasons Why Podcasting is Hot”

  1. Papa Doc, I watch Jeopardy with intense awe these days. They have a champ whose streak is 30 games, and I tuned in to his first game in the streak and he seemed like nothing too unusual, but over the month he’s been, you can see what an amazing mind this guy has.

    Why do I ask this? I wonder why we don’t have any Jeopardy-level thinkers in tech? It’s so simple. We can and should do for text what we did for MP3. All of a sudden how much more useful the web would be.

    Wrote about it yesterday in my summary of where Firefox is. I was being kind and left out all the ridiculous ways they try to deny their home is in the fucking web, not in boardrooms in Silicon Valley (a place where I spent far too much time in the early part of my career).

    I would love it if Matt could get his mind out of his corner of the web and stop saying all the time that “open source” is the answer to everything. I would say no to that if you could hear me. Because what we really need is interop. If the source is free that’s great. But right now we have silos everywhere and I want WordPress, perhaps along with Firefox to help us boot up the writer’s web.

    I can’t do it Doc. Too old and tired, and even when I was spry and in fantastic shape this isn’t really what I like to do when I get up in the morning. What I like to do is big surprise WRITE THE F’ING SOFTWARE.

    Anyway hope all is well. Have you watched Brockmeyer? It’s on Netflix now. I mention it to everyone in case they haven’t seen it. I swear you’ll love it.

    1. One of the people I knew at UCSB 20 years ago was a woman who held serve on Jeopardy for four or five rounds. Her knowledge of everything was amazing. But I’m not sure that kind of knowledge is about thinking. It’s about knowing, but for thinking of the kind you and I want, I’m not sure.

      David Weinberger and I tried twice after Cluetrain to make fresh sense of the Web, so developers could respect and take advantage of what made it so amazingly simple and useful: World of Ends and New Clues. Both got some buzz in their time, but I think both were a fail, at least in terms of structural effects, meaning (and thanks for nailing it) interop. Silo-building was and remains the norm.

      These days, open source is a more unclear label than it was in the early days. I’m glad I’m out of the business of pushing it.

      My own experience with Mozilla was disheartening at the time, but that was eleven years ago and I’ve had no contact with it since then.

      And I’m old too. Also more certain than ever that the developments I most want to help make happen won’t show up until after I’m gone. But that belief actually makes me work with more urgency, when nearly everyone I know my age is retired, sick, or dead. But, blessed with health for now, I press on.

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